tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3931921496989071942.post2445004420680591930..comments2023-06-08T07:32:39.725-05:00Comments on Aristotle's Feminist Subject: Whose Natural English?J. K. Gaylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07600312868663460988noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3931921496989071942.post-21378238492636792032008-03-17T14:20:00.000-05:002008-03-17T14:20:00.000-05:00>Wayne,It's always an honor to have you comment he...>Wayne,<BR/>It's always an honor to have you comment here, especially on your area of expertise and experience. It's when translator's philosophies and methodologies are (sometimes unwittingly) sexist or elitist that there seems to be trouble. With translation of the Bible we see it all, don't we? Not sure I understand the SIL philosophy of "language as it is," but descriptive linguistics sure seems a good goal.<BR/><BR/>>Nathan,<BR/>Thanks for reading, and even more for commenting! Glad to hear your reaction to the bit at the end--you confirm I should use Reed's translation in an upcoming academic/community literary discussion.J. K. Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07600312868663460988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3931921496989071942.post-67675535281722812732008-03-15T14:33:00.000-05:002008-03-15T14:33:00.000-05:00I can agree with the first comment that there is s...I can agree with the first comment that there is so much to digest here. I really enjoyed the snippet at the end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3931921496989071942.post-9120168296137133572008-03-13T16:23:00.000-05:002008-03-13T16:23:00.000-05:00Descriptive linguists observe how language is. Pre...Descriptive linguists observe how language is. Prescriptive linguists tell people how they should speak or write.<BR/><BR/>Translators follow a variety of translation philosophies. I'm most comfortable with the SIL philosophy of translating the Bible into language as it is. All of my training in descriptive linguistics has been well used in my career as a Bible translator.Wayne Lemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18024771201561767893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3931921496989071942.post-46774718439565299922008-03-13T10:05:00.000-05:002008-03-13T10:05:00.000-05:00Yes, yes, yes. Sorry, sorry, sorry that you had t...Yes, yes, yes. Sorry, sorry, sorry that you had to read the post thrice!<BR/><BR/>Thanks, thanks, thanks for your mention of the Virgin Mary, of Jesus, and of the Virgin of Guadalupe. You inspired a post today that says "Jesus was not a Christian." Hope no one has to read it but once.<BR/><BR/>You are very very very encouraging to me! Yes, my maternal grandmother Gladys was a cowgirl who taught me to round them up (and to hunt, to fish, to pick black berries, and to enjoy cobbler and to play 42). A couple of professors here at TCU have done research on cowgirl rhetoric, and right here in Cowtown there's the National Cowgirl Hall of Fame. Amazing stuff. Yes, I'm still learning. (Thanks for your blog too!)J. K. Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07600312868663460988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3931921496989071942.post-59409099153262571952008-03-13T06:17:00.000-05:002008-03-13T06:17:00.000-05:00I had to read your post three times to digest all ...I had to read your post three times to digest all that you include here. Culture and language is an interesting thing to study, absolutely. I've always wondered what might have happened had Constantine's mother written translations rather than just visit where Jesus trod, brought back the "true cross" piece as a relic and, as an influential mother, convinced her son to make Christianity the national religion. Once men took the idea, women were sunk, at least in Western ideas.<BR/><BR/>So much is always lost in translation and those in power create the truth in narrative. Your studies must be terrifically interesting.<BR/><BR/>Language right now is changing at lightening speed, due to the internet. As Jesus might say now: Bls u grrrl in ur studies.<BR/><BR/>Feminist studies might delve into the cult of the Virgin Mary -- how that was overlaid upon existing societies that had women in more powerful positions and in maternal societies. Unfortunatley Catholicism wrenched the woman in form and structure and position. Why does the Virgin of Guadalupe resound so much in the Hispanic cultures south of us? She is almost important than any in the realms.<BR/><BR/>Well, enough of a comment...Enjoyed your post and your thinking...Have you thought about cowgirls as feminists?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com