tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3931921496989071942.post8453806972304441619..comments2023-06-08T07:32:39.725-05:00Comments on Aristotle's Feminist Subject: How Hitler Thought of Women, Who Were Jews, and ObservantJ. K. Gaylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07600312868663460988noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3931921496989071942.post-89026917801364856422011-10-05T16:29:08.427-05:002011-10-05T16:29:08.427-05:00Interesting information, Kurk. I seem to remember...Interesting information, Kurk. I seem to remember someone -- maybe it was Arthur Conan Doyle, or Dorothy L. Sayers-- who had a character in one of their novels say that a certain letter was certainly written by an Englishman, for such awful English grammar could only have been written by a native speaker. The same, apparently, could be said of German. *grin*Kristenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08252374623355509404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3931921496989071942.post-79743295302980996582011-10-05T14:33:43.099-05:002011-10-05T14:33:43.099-05:00Lest anyone else cares, it may be important here t...Lest anyone else cares, it may be important here to raise the issue that Hitler really did type on a typewriter. And he really did do so very awfully. Here's Historian and documentarian Timothy W. Ryback again:<br /><br />[[ At age thirty-five [some 3 years after he had dictated or had typed the Gemlich letter], Hilter had not even mastered basic spelling. He writes "<i>es gibt</i>" -- "there is" -- phonetically rather than grammatically as "<i>es giebt.</i>" But the remnant pieces I studied, including Hitler's original draft for the first chapter of <i>Mein Kampf</i>, as well as an eighteen-page outline to five subsequent chapters, demonstrate he took his writing seriously.<br /><br />It has long been assumed that Hitler dictated <i>Mein Kampf</i> to his fellow prisoners, in particular his personal secretary, Rudolf Hess, and his chauffeur and bodyguard, Emil Maurice. In fact, Hitler had begun work on his manuscript before either one of them arrived in Landsberg. This first draft, typed in Pica with faded blue ribbon, shows a fitful start to the four-hundred-page book that was to follow. A single line is typed across the top of the untitled page, "It is not by chance that my cradle," then breaks off, drops two carriage returns, and begins anew. "It must be seen in my opinion as a positive omen that my cradle stood in Braunau since this small town lies directly on the boarder of two German states whose reunification we young people see as a higher goal in life," Hitler writes with an evidently measured cadence, though he misspells <i>higher</i> -- <i>hohre</i> rather than <i>höhere</i> -- before pulling two more carriage returns and plunging into an emphatic claim that this reunification is driven not be economic considerations -- "<i>Nein! Nein!</i> he hammers -- but by the common bond of blood. "<i>Gemeinsames Blut gehört in ein gemeinsames Reich!</i>" he writes. "Common blood belongs in a common empire."<br /><br />At some point in the opening paragraphs, Hitler paused, took a blue pencil, and went back to make amendments, striking out his first failed sentence, making one grammatical correction, but overlooking several others. ]] (page 72)<br /><br />I've inserted the image of this page that Ryback describes -- <a href="http://speakeristic.blogspot.com/2011/06/how-hitler-thought-of-women-who-were.html" rel="nofollow">at the end of my blogpost above</a>. It is page 73 in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0307455262/ref=rdr_ext_tmb" rel="nofollow">Ryback's book</a>.J. K. Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07600312868663460988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3931921496989071942.post-55096278491297160652011-10-05T14:01:29.502-05:002011-10-05T14:01:29.502-05:00Kristen,
Thank you for lending your expertise and...Kristen,<br /><br />Thank you for lending your expertise and your education to the possibilities. What you are suggesting is certainly consistent with the known facts. There is also evidence that Hitler did not really care so much, at certain stages of writing, how cleanly texts were produced. Historian and documentarian Timothy W. Ryback says: <br /><br />[[ When Hitler boasted of his education at state expense, he not only flaunted his disdain for the Bavrian penal system but also exposed hiw meager understanding of serious education, a fact that is revealed in <i>Mein Kampf</i> both in terms of its vacuous intellectual content and <b><i>its painfully flawed grammar</i></b>. In the surviving bits of unpublished Hitler texts I found in archives across Europe and America, <i><b>[Hitler] the collector-cum-author emerges as a half-educated man who has mastered neither basic spelling nor common grammar. His raw texts are riddled with lexical and syntactical errors.</b></i> ]] (page 71, <i>Hitler's Private Library: The Books That Shaped His Life</i>, my <i><b>emphases</b></i>.)<br /><br />I should add that Charles Hamilton Jr. is probably the leading expert on Hitler's authentic signature; he's attested it in numerous cases with many examples, and he's even described it in detail in his <i>Leaders and Personalities of the Third Reich</i>. And yet, not only can we take Hamilton's word as credible with respect to the originality of Hitler's signature on the Gemlich letter in the Simon Wiesenthal Center but we can also look to other experts who have verified the signature in various contexts. Since Anonymous is a collector, he's surely even familiar with <a href="http://www.snyderstreasures.com/pages/documents_ah.htm" rel="nofollow">online sources of these original signatures of Hitler, in collection for review and sometime for sale, collectors such as this one</a>.J. K. Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07600312868663460988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3931921496989071942.post-27286804360390526732011-10-05T13:07:43.573-05:002011-10-05T13:07:43.573-05:00Anonymous, I'm a paralegal with a degree in En...Anonymous, I'm a paralegal with a degree in English-- and I can attest that many writers in English do not manage to follow English rules of grammar, punctuation or spelling. Since experts have confirmed this letter genuine, then if what you are saying is also correct, it makes sense to believe that the person who typed it was not a skilled writer or typist, but was instead perhaps a low-ranking military officer without good command of German, to whom Hitler dictated the letter.Kristenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08252374623355509404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3931921496989071942.post-32581798598831891232011-10-05T12:06:47.777-05:002011-10-05T12:06:47.777-05:00Dear Anonymous,
Lest there is any doubt in your m...Dear Anonymous,<br /><br />Lest there is any doubt in your mind that Hitler did write this letter, you may also want to examine other secondary sources confirming this is Hitler's first letter to mention Jews and to articulate his anti-Antisemitic program. Here are a few:<br /><br />Ernst Deuerlin's article, "Hitlers Eintritt in die Politik und die Reichswehr," in <i>Vierteljahrshefte für Zeitgeshicte</i> 7 (1959: 177-227).<br /><br />The book by Axel Huhn and Eberhard Jackel that reproduces Adolf Hitler's letter to Adolf Gemlich, namely, <i>Hitler: Sämtliche Aufzeichnungen 1905-1924</i> (Stuttgart: Deutsche Verlagsanstalt, 1980); see pages 88-90.<br /><br />Anton Joachimsthaler's work, <i>Hitlers Weg begann in München 1913-1923</i> (München: Herbig, 2000). There, on pages 231-35, you may find a facsimile of Gemlich's request, Hitler's response, and some related documents.J. K. Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07600312868663460988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3931921496989071942.post-48270641903837665392011-10-05T12:03:30.614-05:002011-10-05T12:03:30.614-05:00Dear Anonymous,
Would you care to say who you are...Dear Anonymous,<br /><br />Would you care to say who you are? Identifying yourself would not only be polite, it might also help you "as long time militariy collector" to warrant your claim.<br /><br /><i><a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2076346,00.html" rel="nofollow">Time Magazine</a></i> reporter Nate Rawlings has confirmed what you so absolutely doubt. The letter is, in fact, authentic: <br /><br />[[ In 1990, handwriting expert Charles Hamilton Jr., who gained fame for exposing fake Hitler diaries in 1983, authenticated Hitler's signature on the Gemlich letter. ]]<br /><br />Likewise, <i><a href="http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-42645493.html" rel="nofollow">Der Spiegel</a></i> reporter Werner Von Maser confirms the authenticity of Hitler's letter typed at Gemlich's request. And the news journal actually reproduces a long excerpt from the letter, and the reporter mentions the typewriter:<br /><br />[[ Auf der Dienst-<b>Schreibmaschine</b> seines Regiments schrieb er Einladungen zu DAP-Versammlungen, warf sie in Briefkästen oder überreichte sie Straßenpassanten. ]]<br /><br />What's more, <i><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/03/world/europe/03iht-hitler03.html?pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow">New York Times</a></i> reporter Jack Ewing offers additional evidence that this is Hitler's typed and signed letter for Gemlich:<br /><br />[[ Johann Pörnbacher, a historian and representative of the German state archives in Munich says the version in the archive is the one that has "<b>corrected some typographical and punctuation errors</b>." Moreover, "<b>the Munich copy adopted some nonsensical commas written by hand in the Wiesenthal Center document.</b>" ]]<br /><br />What's more:<br /><br />[[ "This wouldn’t make sense to a forger," Mr. Plöckinger said. "<b>So structural aspects speak in favor of the authenticity</b>" of the document acquired by the Wiesenthal Center. <br /><br />Now, to be sure, the Wiesenthal Center's Rabbi Hier was, at first, as doubtful as you are. And then he, like experts Johann Plöckinger and Charles Hamilton Jr., was able to examine all the facts. <br /><br />So here's more:<br /><br />[[ Rabbi Hier said he had a chance to acquire the letter when it first came on the market in 1988, but was skeptical of the document because it was typed. That seemed odd to him for the period in question, when Hitler was an ordinary soldier in a country devastated economically by war. Typewriters were very costly in 1919 and even many military units did not have them. "<b>How did he get hold of a typewriter?</b>" Rabbi Hier asked. <br /><br />This year, Rabbi Hier learned that there was a plausible explanation. In 1919, during the upheaval that followed Germany’s defeat in World War I, Hitler was attached to a military propaganda unit of the Bavarian Army in Munich that was trying to stamp out Bolshevik sentiment carried home by prisoners of war in Russia.... <br /><br /><b>Hitler either wrote the letter in longhand and it was typed by someone in Captain Mayr’s office, or Hitler dictated the letter, according to a 1959 article in a German historical quarterly</b>, which appears to be the first scholarly mention of the document. ]]<br /><br />Thus, Anonymous, I hope you can open your mind, and concede, that given the evidence, "THIS letter is [not] 100% FAKE !" In fact, this is one of the most authentic documents of Hitler ever written.J. K. Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07600312868663460988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3931921496989071942.post-80226341579912452732011-10-05T10:53:10.391-05:002011-10-05T10:53:10.391-05:00I am German and all I can say is, that this letter...I am German and all I can say is, that this letter contains many errors, orthographic mistakes and even the signature has some very strange errors. The letter is typewritten, which is very strange. In 1919, Hitler was a young man and attested poor. To own a typewriter was luxury !<br />Space error, a lot of comma faults, use of smal and large words, the word UND in the beginning which is absolute not German style, the word UND after an comma which is absolute no German style, one sentence makes absolute NO sense and is too too long, the word Führernsicher does NOT exist in German language, sentences which are NOT German, but foreign script and style, some words to end a sentence are just missed !the writer was 100 % not a German and even misspelled the word Pogrom !!, and last but not least: The continental typewriter already had a German "ß", "ä" and "ü", but the writer of the letter didn´t use theese letters. My opinion as long time militariy collector. THIS letter is 100% FAKE !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3931921496989071942.post-13607439749565030512011-06-10T06:43:49.864-05:002011-06-10T06:43:49.864-05:00Thanks for your comment, Kristen! You've insp...Thanks for your comment, Kristen! You've inspired <a href="http://speakeristic.blogspot.com/2011/06/mary-mother-of-jesus-jewish-feminist.html" rel="nofollow">this post</a>.J. K. Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07600312868663460988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3931921496989071942.post-77636513410073245112011-06-08T23:21:39.807-05:002011-06-08T23:21:39.807-05:00An odd sort of blindness, that would accuse the Je...An odd sort of blindness, that would accuse the Jews of inbreeding while promoting a "master race" that could become nothing but inbred if "racial purity" was to be the goal!<br /><br />It's really interesting how you have traced Hitler's "how" of thinking to the Aristotelian way of thinking. <br /><br />Women have never been admitted to the upper echelons of any male-created heirarchy, so it is natural that we should have developed non-heiarchical ways of thinking, in contrast to Aristotle's and Hitler's. I find the ways of thinking Jesus displayed in the Gospel accounts to be distinctly non-Aristotelian and non-heiarchical (and female-inclusive)as well. I imagine that Mary must have been a powerful voice in his early life. <br /><br />The God who suffers with God's people is not a heirarchical image-- and as these Jewish women saw, this God is imaged in their faith as well as in the Christian one.Kristenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08252374623355509404noreply@blogger.com