Saturday, September 12, 2009

More Results: From Both Lists Combined

So far, sixteen bloggers have listed both "books (or scholars) that had the most immediate and lasting influence on how [they] read the Bible" and "the 5 most influential female [biblical] scholars on their scholarship."  Their lists are reproduced below from Ken's and Mike's blogs.

The most-named scholars (or books) on both lists combined are:
  1. April DeConick (with 6 mentions)
  2. Paula Frederickson (with 5 mentions)
  3. Adele Berlin, Morna Hooker, Carolyn Osiek, and Francis Young (with 4 mentions each)
  4. Rudolf Bultmann, Mary Douglas, Amy-Jill Levine, Carol Meyers, Elaine Pagels, E.P. Sanders, Marianne Meye Thompson, and Phyllis Trible (with 3 mentions each)
  5. Robert Alter, Margaret Barker, Richard Bauckham, Adela Yarbro Collins, James D.G. Dunn, Majella Franzmann, Susan Niditch, Kenneth Lee Pike, Elizabeth Schussler-Fiorenza, the Septuagint, and Simone Weil (with 2 mentions each)
The counts here include all doubly-mentioned scholars (and books).  There are 18 women and 6 men (and 1 book,  mostly-translated by males?) mentioned at least twice.  

In contrast, among this group of sixteen bloggers, in just their first list of scholars (which could be women or men), here was the result:
  1. Rudolf Bultmann and E.P. Sanders (with 3 mentions each, Dr. Jim West mentioning Bultmann twice in his list)
  2. Robert Alter, Richard Bauckham, James D.G. Dunn, Kenneth Lee Pike, and the Septuagint (with 2 mentions each)
The counts there include only these 6 same men and that one (male-translated?) book.  No woman was mentioned twice on the first set of lists.  And, of course, Mike started his meme because Ken noticed that for his meme, there was (with the more than 50 participants) “a shameful under-representation of women (only Margaret Barker and Toni Morrison received more than one vote, with two each).”

So, again, so far, here are the results of the combined lists of sixteen bloggers playing both memes.

John Anderson at Hesed we ‘emet: Robert Alter, Terence Fretheim, Elie Wiesel, Walter Brueggemann, Marvin R. Wilson.  John Anderson:  Anathea Portier-Young, Paula Fredriksen, Phyllis Trible, Danna Nolan Fewell, Adele Berlin, Diana Lipton, Nancy deClaisse-Walford, Amy-Jill Levine, Diana Edelman, Mary Douglas, Susan Niditch

Ken Brown at C. Orthodoxy: Charles Dickens, E.P. Sanders, Robert Alter, Margaret Barker, Jon D. Levenson.  Ken Brown:  Margaret Barker, Mary Coloe, Susan Niditch, Marianne Meye Thompson, Gale Yee

Matthew Burgess at confessions of a bible junkie: John J. Collins, Thomas F. Mathews, Wayne Meeks, David C. Parker, E. P. Sanders.  Matthew Burgess:  Adela Yarbro Collins, Paula Fredriksen, Judith Kovacs, Elaine Pagels, Diana Swancutt

Doug Chaplin at Clayboy: J.D. Salinger, Julian of Norwich, N.T. Wright, E.P. Sanders, Jürgen Moltmann.  Doug Chaplin:  Frances Young, Morna Hooker, Paula Fredriksen, Margaret Thrall, April DeConick.

Daniel and Tonya both posted lists at Hebrew and Greek Reader. Daniel: Herman Hess, Peter Enns, Christo van der Merwe, Steven McKenzie, Ray Jackendoff; Tonya: Practico/Van Pelt, Bill Mounce, Koehler/Baumgartner, BDAG, Waltke/O’Conner.  Daniel and Tonya:  Carol Dempsey, Rachel Williams, Cynthia Miller, April DeConick, Karyn Traphagen, Amy Jill-Levine.

J.K. Gayle posted twice at Aristotle’s Feminist Subject: Homer, the LXX, Kenneth Lee Pike, Jacqueline Jones Royster, Philip Yancey; then Ruth Behar, Anne Carson, Cheryl Glenn, bell hooks, Gayl Jones, Anne Lamott, Nancy Mairs, Toni Morrison, Krista Ratcliffe, Alice Walker. J. K. Gayle:  Carolyn Osiek, April DeConick, Adele Berlin, Phyllis A. Bird, Julia Evelina Smith

John Hobbins at Ancient Hebrew Poetry not only offered some additional discussion of other people’s lists, but also posted his own: Shakespeare, C.S. Lewis, Abraham Joshua Heschel, Martin Buber, Emil Fackenheim.  John Hobbins:  Adele Berlin, Tikvah Frymer-Kensky, Carolyn Osiek, Elizabeth Schussler-Fiorenza, Phyllis Trible.  (And outside of biblical studies), Leora Batnitzky, Mary Douglas, Martha Nussbaum, Simone Weil, Frances Young.  

Mike Koke at The Golden Rule: James D.G. Dunn, Larry Hurtado, Daniel Boyarin, John P. Meier and Walter Wink.  Mike Koke:  Denise Kimber Buell, Paula Fredriksen, Michelle Murray, Judith Lieu, Mary Douglas

Suzanne McCarthy at Suzanne’s Bookshelf: Aristotle, Paolo Freire, Kenneth Bailey, Simone Weil, Richard Bauckham (and the Septuagint, Mary Doria Russell, George Eliot).  Suzanne McCarthy:  Linda Belleville, Carol Meyers, Elizabeth Schussler-Fiorenza, Catherine Booth, Karen King, Elaine Pagels, Katherine Bushnell

Pat McCullough at kata ta biblia: David L. Balch, Willard M. Swartley, Stuart Murray, Anita Diamant, George W. E. Nickelsburg/James C. VanderKam (plus Robert McAfee Brown, Brian McLaren).  Patrick McCullough:  Marriane Meye Thompson, Adela Yarbro Collins, Paula Fredriksen, Martha Himmelfarb, Margaret M. Mitchell, Judith Lieu, Reta Halteman Finger, Carolyn Osiek 

Bob Macdonald at Sufficiency: the Bible itself, Jonathan Magonet, Douglas Hofstader, Hans Küng, Peter Craigie, Richard Bauckham (plus Mark Nanos, Lawrence Hoffman, Donne, Herbert, Milton, A. A. Milne and Lewis Carrol). Bob MacDonald:  Susannah Ticciati, Tikva Frymer-Kensky, Jody Magness, Carolyn Osiek, Mary Coloe, Morna Hooker, Elizabeth Schlussle Fiorenza

James McGrath at Exploring Our Matrix: James D.G. Dunn, John A.T. Robinson, Rudolf Bultmann, Keith Ward, Pimsleur.  James McGrath:  Frances Young, Elisabeth S. Drower, Jorunn Jacobson Buckley, Elaine Pagels, April DeConick

Nick Norelli at Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth: The Gospel of Luke, The Gospel of John, Craig Evans, Richard Bauckham, Gleason Archer.  Nick Norelli:  Sarah Coakley, Marianne Meye Thompson, Frances M. Young

Judy Redman at Judy’s Research Blog: Brendan Byrne, Nigel Watson, David Scholer, Majella Franzmann, April DeConick (plus Morna Hooker).  Judy Redman:  Morna Hooker, Marjorie Procter-Smith, Elizabeth J Smith, Phyllis Trible, Rosemary Radford Reuther, Sallie McFague, Elizabeth Johnson, April DeConick, Majella Franzmann, Judith Plaskow, Carol Christ, Dorothy McRae-McMahon, Karen Armstrong, Luisa Schutroff

Tony Siew at Revelation is Real: Augustine, John Calvin, Eric & Carole Meyers, Roland Meynet, Ian Kershaw.  Tony Siew:  Elizabeth Fiorenza, Adele Berlin, Carol Meyers, Edith Humphrey

Jim West at Dr. Jim West: Gerhard von Rad, Rudolf Bultmann, Walther Eichrodt, Kurt Aland, Rudolf Bultmann (again). Jim West:  Amy-Jill Levine, Gisela Kittel, Charlotte von Kirschenbaum, Helen K. Bond, Diane Edelman


Mike Koke said...

Thanks for looking at all thi and I actually updated a few of the voting results after you and Bob MacDonald responded. It is interesting to see the results when Ken's meme and mine are combined like that and what it might say about the ideological location of different bloggers.

Jim said...

it really is better to spell people's names correctly. bultmann's first name was rudolf. not rudolph.

Ken Brown said...

Thanks for compiling this! I'm guessing you are counting it as only one vote when someone voted for the same woman on both of their lists (as I did for Barker)?

By the way, there are actually 90 lists compiled in my post, it's just that forty of them came in after I had already compiled summary results (see the update at the bottom of the Top 10 post, which accounts for the additional votes).

J. K. Gayle said...

Pat should take the credit for the idea to compare responses in the two list. Haven't updated more since you included Bob's results. Thanks for your meme, its intent, and your continued follow-up work.

I was mainly wanting to emphasize how we mark "females" and tend to view our category "scholar" as unmarked (default "male") - esp w respect to "bible."

Oph course! Phinally phixed it. He coulda been Rudolφ. Sory & thnx ("For if they do just and temperate actions," reminds Aristotle, "they are just and temperate already, just as, if they spell correctly or play in tune, they are scholars or musicians." εἰ γὰρ πράττουσι τὰ δίκαια καὶ σώφρονα, ἤδη εἰσὶ δίκαιοι καὶ σώφρονες, ὥσπερ εἰ τὰ γραμματικὰ καὶ τὰ μουσικά, γραμματικοὶ καὶ μουσικοί.)

We much appreciate your noticing how relatively few women have influenced us in general as we read the Bible. Might be part of the cause of what April DeConick sees that Alexa points out in that compilation of Top Biblioblogs: that men are counted and read more, women less. (Thanks for your continued efforts to compile the results of your meme - and for letting us know many have come in after you stopped updating the long list. I hope our granddaughters and grandsons will find some of this very amusing someday.)

J. K. Gayle said...

Meant to clarify something you asked, Ken. I counted each "vote" whether made by the same person or not, whether made on the same list or not. Hence, Rudolf Bultmann's two votes from Jim (on his first list) were each counted. And your two votes for Margaret Barker (from your first and second list respectively) were each counted.

Pat McCullough said...

Thanks for this, J.K.! Interesting. Of course, I had a different strategy for answering the first one than the second one. For the second one, I did all biblical scholars. For the first one, though, I did those books that influenced my scholarship the most--which weren't all scholars. So, the woman on my first list is a novelist.